Netherlands online get-together

Start

2024-02-21 20:00 CET

End

22:00 CET

Location

On Netherlands room on FSFE conference server

Description

Online get-together of Netherlands

NL: Onze online localgroup bijeenkomst. Deze is open voor iedereen en we schakelen naar het Engels als niet iedereen Nederlands begrijpt.
EN: Our online localgroup meeting. It is open for everybody, and we'll switch to English if not everybody understands Dutch.

Create a Markdown document on the Nextcloud server and share it here for similar functionality as an Etherpad.

Contribute to the agenda in advance or during the meeting on the dedicated notes document: https://share.fsfe.org/s/nfAiYjeAL4m7oBx

This page will be updated with a link to the collaborative agenda.

Attendance

• André
• Nico
• Sam
• Rijk

Agenda + minutes

• Recent events https://fsfe.org/events/events.html

  • 3-4 February 2024 ⭐ FOSDEM, Brussels

    • https://fsfe.org/news/2024/news-20240130-01.html

  • 14 February 2024 ⭐ ❤ I Love Free Software Day ❤

    • https://wiki.fsfe.org/Events/Netherlands/2024-02-14

    • Multiple emails, 16 cards

    • https://fsfe.org/news/2024/news-20240208-01.html

• Upcoming events https://fsfe.org/events/events.html

  • 16 March 2024 ⭐ NLLGG, Utrecht
    • FSFE Booth

  • 4-5 May 2024 Libreplanet https://libreplanet.org/2024/

  • 1-2 June 2024 ⭐ T-Dose, Geldrop
    • Idea track Public Code
    • Opportunities to generate discussion on moving forward, from different perspectives
    • Will support this from FSFE-perspective
    • Suggestions for presentations are welcome

  • 6-7 June 2024 PublicSpaces conference Amsterdam

    • https://publicspaces.net/2024/02/01/save-the-date-publicspaces-conferentie-2024/

• FSFE updates https://fsfe.org/news/news.nl.html

  • New podcast

  • Interoperable Europe Act adopted https://fsfe.org/news/2024/news-20240206-01.html

  • Blogpost 2023 YH4F contestants https://fsfe.org/news/2024/news-20240126-01.html

• SIDN issue

  • https://www.sidn.nl/nieuws-en-blogs/we-blijven-pionieren-door-de-inzet-van-de-beste-en-modernste-standaardtechnieken

  • https://www.security.nl/posting/827529/Kamer+wil+opheldering+over+verhuizing+ict-omgeving+SIDN+naar+Amazon

  • https://isoc.nl/nieuws/isoc-nl-teleurgesteld-door-keuze-nl-registratie-in-amerikaanse-cloud-onder-te-brengen/ FSFE news article

• Ada Zangemann book translation
  • Let's aim for a Dutch translation available at FOSDEM '25
  • Ensure it works in Netherlands and Belgium
  • Already a group of translators willing to translate
  • Does anybody know publishers?

    • List of publishers https://kinder.boekenbaas.nl/uitgeverijen/

    • Coder Dojo book via Meis & Maas https://kinder.boekenbaas.nl/coderdojo-maak-je-eigen-game-jurie-horneman/

      • Publisher seems geared towards magazines including LEGO and do-books http://www.meisenmaas.nl/boeken/306/coderdojo-creeren-met-code-bouw-je-eigen-website/

  • Already started translating

  • Coordination: https://share.fsfe.org/apps/files/?dir=/Netherlands/Translations/Ada%20Zangemann%20NL&fileid=930818

• Apps
  • Triodos app
    • App-only features
      • Change permission to use card outside of EU.
      • Banking user facial recognition or finger print.
  • NS travel-along discount

    • Change in policy, promoting app (website still possible) but physical card and ticketing machine no longer possible https://rover.nl/nieuws/41-tarieven/2168-ns-maakt-samenreiskorting-flink-ingewikkelder

  • With each little step you lose more technical control. Each step enables new applications so it is reinforcing. Eventually you become reluctant to change.
  • More and more functionality available in Progressive Web Apps. Might make apps less required in favor of standardized web applications.

• NLNet article/podcast https://decorrespondent.nl/15131/deze-nederlandse-club-zorgt-voor-een-internet-dat-wel-voor-iedereen-werkt/14e4d369-934a-04ed-31ed-a3c67bca00e1

• Digitalisation in municipalities
  • Digital systems and digitalisation is primary process, that needs to be under democratic control. It is no longer just something operational.
  • Amsterdam: motion for digital independence

    • https://amsterdam.raadsinformatie.nl/document/13656041/1/09012f9780f436f8

    • https://amsterdam.raadsinformatie.nl/document/13656042/1/09012f9780f436f7

    • https://amsterdam.raadsinformatie.nl/vergadering/1191602#ai_8112240 (point 7, from 39 minutes)

    • Amsterdam realizes they started with sovereignty with digital city of Amsterdam and lost it along the way.

  • Argumentation for sovereignty via information governance, like via https://www.rcihh.nl/

• Book The game * Alessandro Baricco, about mass individualism

Other meetings on the wiki overview page: Events/Netherlands

Category/FellowshipEvents Category/Netherlands