Netherlands online get-together

Start

2025-04-16 20:00 CEST

End

22:00 CEST

Location

On Netherlands room on FSFE conference server

Description

Online get-together of Netherlands

NL: Onze online localgroup bijeenkomst. Deze is open voor iedereen en we schakelen naar het Engels als niet iedereen Nederlands begrijpt.
EN: Our online localgroup meeting. It is open for everybody, and we'll switch to English if not everybody understands Dutch.

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Get-together 16 April 2025

Attendance

• Nico
• André
• Sam

Agenda + minutes

• Recent events https://fsfe.org/events/events.html

  • ⭐ 24 March online Q&A Digital Markets Act https://fsfe.org/news/2025/news-20250306-01.nl.html

  • 8 April PMPC Symposium Essen (in German) https://fsfe.org/news/2025/news-20250310-01.nl.html

    • https://infoservice.heise.de/ct-opensource_vorschau.jsp

• Upcoming events https://fsfe.org/events/events.html

  • ⭐ 22 May NLUUG (incl. CEDO) https://nluug.nl/evenementen/nluug/voorjaarsconferentie-2025/

  • ⭐ 17 May NLLGG https://nllgg.nl/vorigesite/bijeenkomst/20250517/

  • ⭐ 31 May - 1 June T-DOSE https://t-dose.org/2025/ Call for Proposals is open

    • André will propose a presentation.

  • 8-12 August WHY2025 https://why2025.org/ in Geestmerambacht

• FSFE updates https://fsfe.org/news/news.nl.html

  • DMA: European Commission falls short on interoperability requirements for Apple https://fsfe.org/news/2025/news-20250403-01.nl.html

    • "What happened to “interoperability by design”?"
• More material for the booth: merchandise and stickers etc.

• Ada & Zangemann

  • Translation has been reviewed and is considered ready https://git.fsfe.org/FSFE/ada-zangemann/src/branch/main/texts/Ada_Zangemann-nl.txt

  • Work is being done to translate the illustration.
• Banking Apps
  • Idea to have a wiki page:
    • General introduction of relevance and principles from FSFE

    • Criteria for banking apps https://share.fsfe.org/s/mBk8gznTTbFDiiY

    • Overview of situation of banks, gathered by the community. Two ways:
      • Something of own interpretation by supporters.
      • Questionaire/inquiry sent to banks.

  • Presentation about Florian https://media.ccc.de/v/clt25-273-offene-systeme-geschlossene-turen-freiheit-beim-banking

  • Partners
    • Vrijbit

      • https://www.vrijbit.nl/onze-dossiers/dossier-identificatieplicht/item/1162-smartphone-loos-internetbankieren-is-een-recht

        • Public letter to national bank.
    • Press
      • Groene Amsterdammer media

      • De Correspondent https://decorrespondent.nl/16004/loskomen-van-amerikaanse-tech-gaat-ook-over-internetbankieren/196de750-f749-028d-3f47-a650d65e412c

  • Living without smartphone

    • Book Willem Schinkel https://leesmagazijn.shop/products/waarom-ik-geen-mobiele-telefoon-heb-willem-schinkel and radio interview https://www.nporadio1.nl/nieuws/cultuur-media/568fd9c7-8571-4a58-bc6c-02123e36ec4f/waarom-zijn-we-bang-om-offline-te-gaan-wetenschapper-willem-schinkel-over-onze-obsessie-met-technologie

• Changing international situation shows in press covering topic of digital sovereignty.

  • Pressure on international criminal court https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/jan/20/international-criminal-court-icc-braces-swift-trump-sanctions-over-israeli-arrest-warrants

  • European services on WDR site https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/ki-und-cloud-alternativen-aus-europa-trenden-100.html

    • Mistral shown on the images. US-based Microsoft already has a stake in Mistral https://www.computable.nl/2024/02/27/microsoft-krijgt-ook-greep-op-mistral/

  • Getting insights from municipalities

    • Might be possible through a Freedom of Information request. Examples were provided in the beginning of the PMPC campaign on the wiki: https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/PMPC?highlight=%28public%29%7C%28money%29%7C%28public%29%7C%28code%29#What_is_a_Freedom_of_Information_request.3F

    • Or propose something like Delft's principles

      • https://delft.raadsinformatie.nl/modules/1/ingekomen_stukken/676066

    • Positive proposal

      • Dutch VNG Realisatie (association of municipalities) develops https://commonground.nl/

      • Dutch https://minbzk.github.io/mijn-bureau/ (like LaSuite and OpenDesk)

        • Details: https://minbzk.github.io/mijn-bureau/openbsw/ including evaluation https://minbzk.github.io/mijn-bureau/openbsw/evaluatie.html

          • Interesting that https://www.interstis.fr/ is used in LaSuite as office suite although Nextcloud + Collabora Online are being evaluated as well.

          • Deploying OpenDesk in a scaled way requires an enterprise license from OpenDesk which adds additional components.

        • Git repository: https://github.com/MinBZK/mijn-bureau/tree/main

Other meetings on the wiki overview page: Events/Netherlands

Category/FellowshipEvents Category/Netherlands