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= General information =
 * Article about refund strategy: http://www.linux.com/articles/59381
 General information
 * [[http://www.linux.com/articles/59381|Article about refund strategy]]
 * Refund cases are also collected at http://www.racketware.info/index
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  * Fabian Thommen ordered a Dell without XP from the very beginning (no refund necessary) http://rca.snm-hgkz.ch/blog/windows-refunds/
 * Serge Wroclawski gives a counterpoint for any excuses the vendor might have http://community.linux.com/community/07/01/03/227237.shtml?tid=12
  * Fabian Thommen ordered a Dell without XP from the very beginning (no refund necessary). His report can be found [[http://rca.snm-hgkz.ch/blog/windows-refunds/|here]]
 * Serge Wroclawski gives a [[http://community.linux.com/community/07/01/03/227237.shtml?tid=12|counterpoint for any excuses]] the vendor might have
 * Read the details about your license on [[http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms|Microsoft's software license terms page]].
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= Information for specific countries =  Information for specific countries
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== France ==
 * Detaxe.org doing work on the refund in France: The [[http://www.aful.org/|AFUL]] (Association francophone des utilisateurs de Linux) put into action a [[http://www.detaxe.org/|working group on the refund issue]]. See also [[http://www.detaxe.org/spip.php?rubrique34|specific experiences with refund]] and a [[http://forum.framasoft.org/viewtopic.php?t=20785|detailed refund procedure]]. There's also some info about [[http://jlerhun.free.fr/detaxe/index.html|refund in France concerning laptops purchased through Lidl]].
= Belgium =
 * Refunding Windows-Tax in Belgium: [[Windows-Tax_Refund/Belgium|Experiences of people seeking their Windows-Tax-Refund in Belgium]]
 * [[http://wiki.open-minds.org/vente_liee:historique_remboursement_bundle_logiciel_portege_r500|Belgian attempt to get reimbursed for a Toshiba]]
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== UK ==
 * Dave Mitchell (UK) gets refund from Dell UK: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html
= CZ =
 * [[http://osor.eu/news/cz-lenovo-fails-to-silence-gnu-linux-user-on-windows-refund|Lenovo fails to silence GNU/Linux user on Windows refund]]
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== United States ==
 * Strategy for getting a refund in the US (by Steve Qualline, Linuxjournal, 2003) http://linuxjournal.com/article/7040
= France =
 * Racketiciel.info doing work on the refund in France: The [[http://www.aful.org/|AFUL]] (Association francophone des utilisateurs de Linux) put into action a [[http://www.racketiciel.info/|working group on the refund issue]]. See also a [[http://racketiciel.info/guide/index|detailed refund procedure guide]], a [[http://www.racketiciel.info/situation/nos-demandes/|summary of requests]] and a [[http://racketware.info/|list of similar actions worldwide]]. There's also some info about [[http://jlerhun.free.fr/detaxe/index.html|refund in France concerning laptops purchased through Lidl]].
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== Belgium ==
 * Refunding Windows-Tax in Belgium: [[Windows-Tax_Refund/Belgium|Experiences of people seeking their Windows-Tax-Refund in Belgium]]
 * Belgian attempt to get reimbursed for a Toshiba: http://wiki.open-minds.org/vente_liee:historique_remboursement_bundle_logiciel_portege_r500

== CZ ==
 * CZ: Lenovo fails to silence GNU/Linux user on Windows refund: http://osor.eu/news/cz-lenovo-fails-to-silence-gnu-linux-user-on-windows-refund

== Germany ==
= Germany =
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=== Lenovo ===
 * 2007-?: Michael Voigt reports a successful refund in Germany. The refund is 30€ and this forum entry describes [[http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-So-gehts-bei-lenovo/forum-124511/msg-13584630/read/|how to handle the IBM/Lenovo refund]] procedure (german only).
== Dell ==
 * Marcus Dapp (CH) [[http://www.thealternative.ch/tiki-index.php?page=Software-Refund-en|got refund from Dell Germany]].(Link not working, contacted Markus Dapp -- [[mk]] <<DateTime(2008-10-25T11:40:20Z)>>)

== Lenovo ==
 * 2007-?: Michael Voigt reports a successful refund in Germany. The refund is 30€ and [[http://www.mail-archive.com/fsfe-de%40fsfeurope.org/msg00663.html|this]] mailing list posting describes the procedure (german only).
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 * 2008-10-?: Hanno Böck failed with a Microsoft Vista refund http://hboeck.de/archives/658-Lenovo,-Linux-and-Windows-refunding.html with the same form as Matthias and Michael  * 2008-10-?: [[http://hboeck.de/archives/658-Lenovo,-Linux-and-Windows-refunding.html|Hanno Böck failed with a Microsoft Vista refund]] with the same form as Michael, Björn, and Matthias.
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=== Dell ===
 * Marcus Dapp (CH) [[http://www.thealternative.ch/tiki-index.php?page=Software-Refund-en|got refund from Dell Germany]].
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== Italy == = Italy =
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 * [[http://paolodelbene.blogspot.com/2008_08_01_archive.html|paolo del bene's blog entry] about refund. (Has to be reviewed.)  * [[http://paolodelbene.blogspot.com/2008_08_01_archive.html|paolo del bene's blog entry]] about refund. (Has to be reviewed.)
 * [[http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/10/29/hp_windows_xp_preinstalled_software/|Italian court rules against HP on pre-installed Windows]], [[http://www.aduc.it/dyn/documenti/allegati/sentenza_hp.pdf|court ruling in italian]] (pdf)

= Portugal =
 * http://nao.quero.imposto.ms (please add decription, summary)

= Russia =

 * http://www.fas.gov.ru/english/news/n_25502.shtml Russian anti monopoly agency demands easy tax refund procedures

= Spain =
 * http://devolucion.org (please add description, summary)


= Switzerland =
 * The wiki's refund project from swisslinux.org (French) [[http://wiki.swisslinux.org/fr/association/projets/detaxe|wiki.swisslinux.org/fr/association/projets/detaxe]]
 * 20090318: [[http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/ | HP refunds 520$ for unused software]] (short article on [[http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/User-Blogs/Aus-dem-Leben-eines-Hardware-Redakteurs/600-Franken-fuer-nicht-benoetigtes-Windows| linux-community.de ]] about it in German)

= UK =
 * [[http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html|Dave Mitchell (UK) gets refund from Dell UK]]
 * 2008-05-28: [[http://www.osor.eu/news/uk-educational-it-agency-microsoft-tax/ | Educational IT agency: 'Microsoft tax' unacceptable]]

= Outside Europe =

== Australia ==
* ''[[http://www.muftor.com/blog/?p=12|Windows Vista refund or credit?]]'' (Australia)

== United States ==
 * [[http://linuxjournal.com/article/7040|Strategy for getting a refund in the US]] (by Steve Qualline, Linuxjournal, 2003)

== unsorted ==
 * [[http://pacoriviere.googlepages.com/TornarElUindous.html|Site gathering interesting info]] (in catalan)
 * [[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/dell_windows_eula_israel/|Israeli Linux fan squeezes Windows refund out of Dell]] ([[http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3632861,00.html|more detailed original source from ynetnews.com]])

A knowledge and experience repository on how to reclaim your "Windows Tax"

The "Windows Tax" has artificially increased hardware prices for users of GNU/Linux by a mandatory payment to Microsoft even though no Microsoft software is being used on these machines. The reason: Almost any computer and laptop is bundled with a Microsoft Windows licence. Most vendors will not sell computers without it because apparently their terms with Microsoft do not allow it.

The only way to counteract that "Windows Tax" on PCs and laptops is to ask for a refund, but details on this process are not easy to find, and there is no central repository to allow people gather and share their information with the process.

Changing that is the purpose of this section in our Fellowship page.

Please feel free to add your own experience or links to information about attempts by others!

Please provide date, kind of Microsoft License, company you bought it, ...

Belgium

CZ

France

Germany

We are currently gathering information. Please add information here or write an e-mail to germany@fsfeurope.org .

Dell

Lenovo

  • 2007-?: Michael Voigt reports a successful refund in Germany. The refund is 30€ and this mailing list posting describes the procedure (german only).

  • 2008-08-17: Matthias Kirschner got 30 EUR with the same form as discribed in Michael Voigt's refund for a Microsoft Vista License
  • 2008-09-18: Björn Schießle failed with a Microsoft Vista refund and get the same response from Lenovo as Hanno Böck
  • 2008-10-?: Hanno Böck failed with a Microsoft Vista refund with the same form as Michael, Björn, and Matthias.

Italy

Portugal

Russia

Spain

Switzerland

UK

Outside Europe

== Australia == * Windows Vista refund or credit? (Australia)

United States

unsorted

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