Netherlands online get-together
- Start
- 2025-01-29 20:00 CET
- End
- 22:00 CET
- Location
- Description
Online get-together of Netherlands
NL: Onze online localgroup bijeenkomst. Deze is open voor iedereen en we schakelen naar het Engels als niet iedereen Nederlands begrijpt.
EN: Our online localgroup meeting. It is open for everybody, and we'll switch to English if not everybody understands Dutch.
Get-together 29 January 2025
Attendance
- Nico
- André
- Sam
- Rijk
Agenda + minutes
Recent events https://fsfe.org/events/events.html
- ⭐ 30 December Chaos Communication Camp
- ⭐ 18 January NLLGG Utrecht
⭐ 1-2 February FOSDEM https://fosdem.org/2025/
Upcoming events https://fsfe.org/events/events.html
- ⭐ 14 February I Love FS Day
FSFE updates https://fsfe.org/news/news.nl.html
Make socials social again https://fsfe.org/news/2025/news-20250120-01.nl.html
- Open Source AI
OSI definition https://opensource.org/ai
https://jeffser.com/alpaca/ als easy tool to run public models locally
- Privacy violations when training AI.
Book Permanent Record by Edward Snowden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Record_(autobiography)
- FOSDEM
https://drewdevault.com/2025/01/23/2025-01-23-Transparency-and-governance-FOSDEM.html
- Multiple presentations by FSFE.
Funding FOSS ecosystem devroom https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track/funding/
DIY air quality monitor https://nicorikken.eu/docs/air-quality-monitor/
Department of defense not using a specially built software solution https://www.ftm.nl/artikelen/het-it-systeem-van-defensie-werkt-nog-steeds-niet
- International politics and tech
Fediverse make socials social again https://fsfe.org/news/2025/news-20250120-01.nl.html
Signal most-downloaded messaging app in Netherlands https://persportaal.anp.nl/artikel/1969bf7c-3ea8-41bf-b156-318c89906c1b/nederland-kiest-voor-privacy-signal-meest-gedownloade-berichtapp-in-de-app-stores
Deepseek AI https://www.deepseek.com/
German army switched to Matrix https://t3n.de/news/matrix-neuer-messenger-bundeswehr-behoerden-1282086/
Podcast about details on Bluesky https://www.bnr.nl/podcast/de-technoloog/10561900/de-toekomst-van-bluesky-en-de-fediverse
- Parts of Bluesky can be self-hosted, but hardly practical because it requires terabytes of harddisk.
- Work to facilitate adds.
- Hosting fediverse could be part of public broadcast services.
- Printing
- Modern corporate printers have their own app ecosystems. Local IPP is only reliable solution. Raspberry PI like device necessary to connect it to a device.
Cups wants to remove filters (PPD file), focus on IPP Everywhere https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-sharing/issues/4 PPD creates a generic format like PDF to a custom format for the printer. This will shift the load of processing from the computer to the printer.
- Modern corporate printers have their own app ecosystems. Local IPP is only reliable solution. Raspberry PI like device necessary to connect it to a device.
- Banking apps
- Let's continue the effort.
- Long game of raising the concern
- Concerns about social security payment cards
Presentation about social security, which addresses payment cards from bout 25 minutes in https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-eat-the-rich-die-menschen-wollen-soziale-sicherheit-aber-kriegen-deutschland-den-deutschen-holt-das-geld-bei-den-reichen (also in English language)
Dedicated presentation about social security payment cards https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-nein-zur-bezahlkarte-rechte-symbolpolitik-mit-solidaritt-aushebeln
- Being introduced for refugees.
- Issues with the card system
- Only topped up to maximum amount, no taking money to next month.
- Only allowed in stores, no second hand options or flee markets.
- Restrictions on locality of spending.
- High transfer fees to payment system providers.
- In case of issues, it can be a hassle and can take time to get an appointment to sorted things out.
- Card is stigmatizing.
- Transactions are available and tied to the person, available to the government to review.
- More work for government.
- False argument of ensuring money staying in the country. From research only 7% spends some money outside of the country, so only a marginal issue.
- Introducing a payment card has been tried multiple times, each time stopped.
- Alternative: basic income.
I Love FS Day at Hackerspace Nijmegen https://wiki.fsfe.org/Events/Netherlands/2025-02-14
Other meetings on the wiki overview page: Events/Netherlands